I am looking for a Christmas present for my dad and he is extremely hard to buy for. The only reason i am considering this stuff is that over time hunting with him we have proven that he can get picked off in a tree in full camo 10 ft Ihigher than me and we can't figure out why. We have begun to call him the black cloud He costed me a big 8 last year hunting together and my uncle countless others as those two are always together. Anyway i do realize science has proved we have a electromagnetic field, whether that is what animals pick up on that is all speculation. I am willing to buy this for my dad if i hear enough good responses. If you have never used this or know personally of someone who has, please do not respond. DOES THIS STUFF WORK???
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Does HECS camo really work?
Does scentlok really work?? There will be all kinds of opinions on this. Here is mine.
There is no way we as humans can fathom the instinct to survive that wild animals of all types display in their environment! They are designed to be that way to insure the procreation of their species.
IMO if it seems to good to be true it more than likely is. I went away from my 5 yr old scent lok this year and bought regular camo in a good pattern and have seen more shooter bucks this year than the last 5 combined. It isn't that I am not a skillful hunter but rather that the scent lok made me lazy because their marketing slogan worked to a tee!
I am not sure about HECS, but for myself I will stick with what I said above. If it seems to good to be true, then it probably is!! Good luck!
There is no way we as humans can fathom the instinct to survive that wild animals of all types display in their environment! They are designed to be that way to insure the procreation of their species.
IMO if it seems to good to be true it more than likely is. I went away from my 5 yr old scent lok this year and bought regular camo in a good pattern and have seen more shooter bucks this year than the last 5 combined. It isn't that I am not a skillful hunter but rather that the scent lok made me lazy because their marketing slogan worked to a tee!
I am not sure about HECS, but for myself I will stick with what I said above. If it seems to good to be true, then it probably is!! Good luck!
No...I am suggesting that money spent on a good camo pattern that breaks up your silhouette would probably be a more effective tool in his hunting arsenal. I don't have any experience with HECS and scent loo may or may not aid in helping reduce you odor. Playing the wind is the only way to insure deer do not know you are there.
All the " relaxed animals" on the HECS commercial, I have had the same thing numerous times. Perfectly relaxed animals that were all upwind of me. They were relaxed because the had no idea I was there.
By the way I bought the Native Species line in Vertigo Grey. It is dry well built, seems durable thus far and works like they claim it does. Totally breaking up your outline. I even went as far as to sit in tree lines with it where there was not much around and went undetected....again playing the wind.
Just be careful on what you buy. Some of the hunting stuff is really overpriced and may or may not work. If it does it is awesome, if it doesn't you could be out some hard earned cash!! :wink:
All the " relaxed animals" on the HECS commercial, I have had the same thing numerous times. Perfectly relaxed animals that were all upwind of me. They were relaxed because the had no idea I was there.
By the way I bought the Native Species line in Vertigo Grey. It is dry well built, seems durable thus far and works like they claim it does. Totally breaking up your outline. I even went as far as to sit in tree lines with it where there was not much around and went undetected....again playing the wind.
Just be careful on what you buy. Some of the hunting stuff is really overpriced and may or may not work. If it does it is awesome, if it doesn't you could be out some hard earned cash!! :wink:
Ask yourself this... If deer can sense "human energy" how do they do it? We know all about the five senses... and deer can see with their eyes, hear with their ears, smell with their nose, etc. Those are all organs that are connected by nerves to the brain. If deer have this 6th sense that senses this so called "human energy" what organ is there that is connected by nerve endings to the brain that sense it?
Don't get me wrong, I have seen deer do somethings that really make you wonder if they have some kind of a sixth sense, but if they can sense the energy that the HECS suit is supposed to conceal, what part of their body (what organ) does it? Seems to me that it is very unlikely that there is an organ in the body that no one has discovered yet.
I realise I am being too logical for a lot of deer hunters, and most hunters live on hope and emotion rather than logic. But until you can show me how the deer sense this human energy, I am pretty darn skeptical.
Don't get me wrong, I have seen deer do somethings that really make you wonder if they have some kind of a sixth sense, but if they can sense the energy that the HECS suit is supposed to conceal, what part of their body (what organ) does it? Seems to me that it is very unlikely that there is an organ in the body that no one has discovered yet.
I realise I am being too logical for a lot of deer hunters, and most hunters live on hope and emotion rather than logic. But until you can show me how the deer sense this human energy, I am pretty darn skeptical.
It is like this, My dad buys the best stuff, is more peticular with washing clothes, scent, and wind direction than anyone that i know. That is why he always sees tons of deer, but many times they will get within 40 yds and just start acting weird and back out. This doesn't happen all the time, but it does occur more times to him than anyone that i know. He just gets so frustrated and if i could eleviate some of that frustration it would be the best Christmas present ever. There has to be a reason why the deer do this and i know some people have higher electromagnetic fields than others. This HECS camo has been around for awhile and i am just hoping that someone who has used this stuff can give me an honest opinion.
Haven't you ever felt like someone is watching you and come to find out you are right. It might be the same kind of thing.
I realize this thread is going no wheres i was just looking for an honest opinion from someone who used the apparel.
I'll give an honest opinion. It may work and it may not. I don't use it but i believe deer sense "something" sometimes. Gene Wensel even wrote a chapter about it in his book. It describes exactly what happens to your father. I know some guys that barely hunt,when they do hunt animals just come to on a string and I know others who work their asses off, hunt hard,are in good spots and still can't get it done. Some dogs go nuts when their owner are hypnotized and are completely normal when their owners are not. So based on that I feel there may something to it because everybody is different. Buy it and find out. Post your results.
you know i think you are right i might just buy it and see what happens. worst case i look like an idiot (won't be the first time)
I think its a hokey scam. If it was lead lined and you wore it like a helmet maybe....lol.
But to say honeycomb pattern stitching keeps deer from sensing you?? Come on. Deer are finely tuned to their enviroments, with senses we cant even comprehend. Better smell, hearing, etc. If someone bought a new lamp and set it in your living room, would you notice? Probably. Same thing with hunting. Deer notice or smell a difference, and even if they cant pinpont it, it makes them nervous.
I think if there was anything to the HECS theory, 90% of bowhunters would blank every year.
Buy your a gift card to Cabelas, Bass Pro etc. Its hard to know exactly wha he might need or want, and that would cover ya
But to say honeycomb pattern stitching keeps deer from sensing you?? Come on. Deer are finely tuned to their enviroments, with senses we cant even comprehend. Better smell, hearing, etc. If someone bought a new lamp and set it in your living room, would you notice? Probably. Same thing with hunting. Deer notice or smell a difference, and even if they cant pinpont it, it makes them nervous.
I think if there was anything to the HECS theory, 90% of bowhunters would blank every year.
Buy your a gift card to Cabelas, Bass Pro etc. Its hard to know exactly wha he might need or want, and that would cover ya
If the science behind HECS was valid then the company would have no need to be so blatantly dishonest about it, as they have been repeatedly proven to be. If you're genuinely interested then a quick search on "HECS" will result in many threads on the subject here. It really has been covered to death...including the fallacious nature of the presumption that you have to try it to be in a position to render a valid opinion on whether or not it can do what is claimed.
No, a HECS suit does not work. But I'm only basing my opinion on science and everything that humans know about land mammals and electromagnetic fields. I will leave open the extremely slight possibility of HECS working due to witchcraft, voodoo magic, and if the Harry Potter movies turn out to be documentaries rather than just regular old movies.
If your dad is getting busted too often it's because he's moving around too much in the stand. In all honesty it could be because he's older, the older people get the easier it is to get cold and uncomfortable in a treestand and that results in extra movement.
If your dad is getting busted too often it's because he's moving around too much in the stand. In all honesty it could be because he's older, the older people get the easier it is to get cold and uncomfortable in a treestand and that results in extra movement.
I am currently in the process of developing a human energy detector capable of detecting the amount of human energy a deer can detect at 20 yards. It will be able to distinguish between the energy of other deer and that of humans. As we are all aware (very common knowledge) humans give off a distinct energy signal that is far different than all other carbon based life forms on the planet. It will also detect the differences between regular human energy (non threatening) and predatory human energy (run for the hills scary ass type).
Once my human energy detector is completed I'll run the tests and let you guys know for sure what the deer are sensing.
Once my human energy detector is completed I'll run the tests and let you guys know for sure what the deer are sensing.
Let me know when it's done so I can buy one for myself. As long as it's priced somewhere between the cost of a Kruncher and an Ozonics machine I'm buying one.
Get the hecs for him. The camo pattern looks good to me. If he gets busted less then you can say that it works.
My oldest brother could not wear a mechanical watch. The watches would quit working in about 3 days after he put it on (yes he did wind the watch). So weird things do happen. Maybe the suit will be the ticket.
Report back and let us know how it goes.
My oldest brother could not wear a mechanical watch. The watches would quit working in about 3 days after he put it on (yes he did wind the watch). So weird things do happen. Maybe the suit will be the ticket.
Report back and let us know how it goes.
I went through a phase in my late teens/early twenties that I couldn't wear ANY watch...Mechanical or battery operated, I would get maybe a month out of them at the most and they would die and never work again...No telling how many watches I bought in a few years. Finally I just gave up and stopped wearing them, few years later I bought another watch and it worked fine and I've never had that issue with any sense then. That never made any sense to me, don't know what was up with it.
I hunted in the US, Illinois, for the first time at the beginning of the month and shot a doe and young buck 30 minutes apart. Could have shot another doe which hung about after I shot the doe and then the buck. She was still under 30 yards for 5 minutes after the buck had hit the ground. Both times she was less than 15 yards from each of the deer shot. I was 15 feet up wearing HECS. Not sure if this is normal as I have nothing to compare this against.
All of my hunting in New Zealand is from the ground and HECS works very well for me. I have had deer walk into 3 yards twice this year. While there are the nay-sayers (most who have never tried it) the suit is a must for me when I go hunting.
All of my hunting in New Zealand is from the ground and HECS works very well for me. I have had deer walk into 3 yards twice this year. While there are the nay-sayers (most who have never tried it) the suit is a must for me when I go hunting.
No, I have never tried HECKS ,,,and it is just opinion ..but, I think there is some thing to to putting out bad vibes ,,Like having a bad attitude and just wanting to kill the first thing you see ...VS ...just being out there and enjoying nature and thinking this is a beautiful day...I think you will see more game with the latter attitude....
I work with a K9 tracking team, and the guys I work with have many years experience tracking, they're also hunters. The scent suit topic and rubber boots in there opinion is over rated. They have tracked men wearing both suit and boots even after the track was 2 hours old. A deers nose is just as good.
I have been using the Hecs cloths now for a couple of years and yes animals are calmer around me. the real test however was my 12 year old i bought him a mans small and he wears it we hunt out of 6 foot tripods in the brush county in texas and it has made a large difference. you are primarily buying HECS for the technoligy. Think of it as your microwave door and the grid pattern on it. that is the simpliest way to explane it. It can be worn under or on top of your cloths it does not matter. i usually wear mine as a under layer and use what camo pattern fits the area i am hunting in. Go to the website and look at the videos. its pretty interesting. My last 8 hunts i have killed 6 animals, Bear,moose,mule deer, courgar,axis deer and sitka blacktail. most of them were spot and stalk. All with a bow and close distances. I wont hunt without it. Get the promo code off the HECS tv show and save a few bucks it could be priceless to your dads success. Randy
Most experienced hunters have routinely had deer (and numerous other animals) calmly pass by within a few yards (sometimes even feet) without wearing gimicky crap like this, which is why it's so funny to hear some keep insisting that when the same thing happens to them it must be because of the gimmicky crap they're wearing. All this in spite of the fact that there is absolutely NO scientific basis for the claims made about the product.
No wonder fortune tellers and astrologers are still able to make a living in this day and age.
No wonder fortune tellers and astrologers are still able to make a living in this day and age.
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