Well … to your point directly… No.

I bought 2 dozen in 475 spine to use at a reduced draw weight (for health challenges that will hopefully be “relatively“ temporary).

I didn’t want to keep shooting overspined X10s at speeds you could measure with a calendar. LOL

So, far … shot mostly at shorter ranges (less than 20 yards).

But given my now reduced DW (in the 40’s) combined with my DL (28”), I’m getting 278 fps.

When I’ve been up close and personal…easy to put 30 consecutive shots into a single hole.

But, I have noticed they don’t penetrate my layered foam target as much as the heavier arrows (go figure right … no surprise there)

They are skinny like the X10s just not as heavy. I have them set up with tiny vanes and 90 grain nibs.

My guess is that I will end up competing this year with them. But based on my experiences… I would think that getting back up to a reasonable speed combined with the low profile will let the arrow hold its own in light to moderate winds at normal “900 round” competition distances. But at this point … that’s a guess based off my past experiences.

Cheers

 

That's great information!!! I like shooting 45-48lbs and my true DL is 27.375 so they might be perfect for me to shoot outdoors

 

Thank you very much!

 

I wonder if they are similar to the old Navigators. I shot those a "few" years back...... The Navigator was a hybrid. They tracked really well !!!

 

Yes the Navigators were great arrows! I think i might have one or two left in my "old" arrow pile. Do you think. 575 would work for 29 inch draw, 40 lbs draw, and arrow cut to 28.5? I was thinking maybe a 120 point for outdoor target comp? They are a little lighter than an ACE so i am thinking i would get better sight marks for longer distances?

 

My instinct is it would be forgiving if the bow is well tuned. I realize I am an oddity but unless I am shooting at live animals I would rather be slightly under than over.

It is probably just in my head but it feels like a softer more forgiving shot. When I have been over spined the feels more abrupt and less forgiving.

 

Thank you

 

I have a dozen of the 325 spine for my target compound setup at #58. My initial impressions are that they are very fast, but nock tuning took a decent amount of time to get all the spines aligned. If you don't spend the time tuning, you wont see amazing accuracy.

Current build:
SuperDrive Micro 325 Spine
29 5/8" shafts
Easton 4mm pin bushings
TopHat Stainless steel 130 grain bullet points
Beiter Hunter Nocks
FlexFletch FFP187 Three fletch
Average arrow weight 398.1 grains
FOC 13.2

I also purchased a dozen of the Victory VAP Target shafts and can't wait to see how they compare.

 

Great info. Thanks!
Can't wait to hear your thoughts about the two.

 

Finally got a chance to shoot the Victory VAP Target shafts.

I gotta say, I like them, maybe more than the SuperDrive Micros. Accuracy was similar, but build time was significantly shorter with not having to nock tune bare shafts.

VAP Target Arrow build:
Victory VAP Target V1 350 Spine
30" Shafts
Victory Pin Bushings (Any future build will be swapped for TopHat Pin Bushings due to the Victory ones being black and difficult to see translucent nocks)
Victory Stainless Steel 120 grain Target Points
Beiter Hunter Nocks
FlexFletch FFP187 Three fletch
FOC 12.1

I'll probably be using this set for this years outdoor shoots. Ends up costing about $2 less per arrow.

 

YES I have and really like them and they seem to be shooting better than my X10 so I am also surprised.

Bought and built a set of superdrive micro in 750 spine with 90 grain points. I bought them to reduce the cost of arrows as I have lost 1 and shattered 3 X-10s not in competition. I just started shooting 60 meters and so much is different, My string picture seems less definite and I circle the yellow a lot which seems related to the plunger and fatigue. I onl shoot 32 pounds too. When I shoot x10 i have to set my distance at about 102 on my axcel sight or 92 for my micro. on a 36 I find I am getting better scores on the micro's as well.
Obviously the micro must be lighter or faster and find my trajectories flatter with more arrows in the yellow and few out past the blue. Set up is unchanged. same rest height and plunger with bareshaft at 30 meters very tight to my fletched.

Why are the micro's performing better? they are the same overall length, the micros are lighter by about 10 grains (100 grain points)
I am wondering if the fletching is slowing down the x10 faster and I am losing something or ? I am using Jake Kaminski's AAE max fletches on both sets. I suppose it is nice to find a cheaper arrow giving such good performance but why are the X10 s actually performing worse after 30 meters?
I sort of hate finding I could have spent ⅓ as much as X10 and beat them?

 

If the only difference between the X10s and the VAPs is 10grn of point difference then the X10s in total are quite a bit heavier. Also, if you did not adjust your rest and nocking point to the VAPs they will naturally fly higher/need a lower sight setting as they are a larger diameter shaft and will sit higher on the rest. And finally, if the spines are the same between the two then the X10s are probably flying weak; general rule of thumb with barreled shafts is they dynamic tune about .050 weaker than their parallel counterparts, meaning one might need a slightly stiffer static spine X10 than what tunes for a parallel shaft.

 

Since this thread seems to have wandered a bit I will say I am a big fan of the VAP's. I have split two between last night and today at 50m. These were three arrows on a spot. I am getting ready for a 720 round next weekend. They fly very well out of my bow.

 

Good Day,
What spine would you guys recommend for the Superdrive Micro Arrows?
Draw Length: 29"
Arrow length(Throat of nock to end of arrow shaft): 31"
Draw weight: 34 pound
Recurve Bow: hoyt xceed riser with Carbon/foam limbs