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First Bow: Flagship or Budget?

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#1 ·
Hey AT, hope this finds y'all well!

I had a question regarding the flagship vs. budget bow debate. I did a little googling to see if I could find any particular arguments for/against choosing flagship over a cheaper bow, but couldn't find any answers for my specific conundrum. Where I deviate from that talk is in regards to skill level. I am a novice archer/bowhunter wanting to invest in my first rig. I cannot for the life of me decide whether paying a flagship price would be worth it over the long-run or if I should start with something substantially cheaper, with the caveat of maybe having to buy a flagship bow eventually anyway. I have shot in the past and even taught archery at a summer camp and found that I had a knack for it.

What do you think? Should a first bow setup be a flagship or should I start small?

Thank you for your time and look forward to hearing y'all's responses!

byrd94
 
#2 ·
Really good question and I think the response depends on what you want from your bow and your budget.

For me... I didn't care about cool points only effectiveness/performance so I bought the budget bow from the same manufacturer which cost half the price of the same companies flagship bow. The difference in speed was immaterial. So from my perspective the price difference was just for hype. I'm not the best archer but I am shooting as well or a little better than most of my peers.
 
#5 ·
I was in your boat four years ago. I went with a cheaper starter Hoyt Charger. I'm glad I did because not knowing what I wanted at the time, later I ended up wanting something with a longer ATA, and 60 lb instead of 70 lb. So, this past Black Friday I picked up a Realm X in the specs that I now know that I want.
 
#6 ·
I would go will a flagship bow to start with. The flagships hold their value a lot better. So when you decide to sell you can get about half your money back if sold within a couple years.
Where as if you get an entry level bow they are pretty much throw away bows that don’t hold much value at all.
Buy once cry once.
90% of people that buy an entry level bow end up buying a flagship within a year anyway.
 
#16 ·
I don't think we should conflate budget and entry level. They are two different things.

Take for example the 2019 PSE Carbon Air Stealth EF Compound Bow selling for $1,500 with an advertised speed of 342-350 and compare that with the 2019 PSE Drive 3B Compound Bow with an advertised speed of 330. What are you getting for an extra $800? and if you sell it later for 1/2 price or $750, you could give your Drive away to someone less fortunate and still be ahead economically speaking.

And if you were to decide to then buy that bow second hand for $400 you'd have a lot of budget left over for all the required accouterments.

Brand and models were used for demonstration sake only. I have no interest in pushing any brand or model.
 
#10 ·
Because you are even asking this question, my advice is to buy what you want. I would go to a good pro-shop and be honest with them about what you are thinking about doing. Go shoot a few budget starter bows and see what you like and then go shoot a few flagships. You may even contact a dealer by phone first, tell them what you told us and see if they have any of last year's models or even some a couple of years old or so that are still new and even in the box still and see what they will do with price if you invest with them. You can get a great, new bow with great technology and with some decent accessories for half to two-thirds of what you would pay for this year's flagship bow all tricked out.
 
#13 ·
Reduced price flagship that's new old stock. Not quite classifieds prices but you get a warranty still. Also keep in mind if you're going to need help setting the bow up it might be cheaper in the long run to just buy at a shop because some places rape you for setting up a bow not purchased there
 
#17 ·
I wouldn’t go with an expensive bow to start as you have no idea what your preferences are. I’d go with a nice used bow and learn to shoot. Once you get into shooting and develop a good platform of skills, you can go looking for a bow that is a little more of this or a little less of that. You need a baseline though.

If you’ve got tons of money to burn, nevermind just go buy whatever you think you want. If you have a budget that you need to mind, spend the majority on quality accessories, those will travel with you to your next bow.

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#19 ·
Budget bow all day. Yeah, you could resell your flagship but you would still lose a few hundred. You could spend that same few hundred and get a new cheap bow or a used good one. I wouldn’t buy a flagship until I was sure it was perfect. You don’t know what perfect is until you start shooting.


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#20 ·
my 1st recurve my folks bought me for my 15th birthday in 1971. still have it, not much for deer in those days.my 1st compound was way budget. bought it at kmart in Algona. it was a bear whitetail II. shot it like crazy at a bag target, killed a deer w/ it that next fall. 2 nd bow wasn't much different bought it mail order at cabelas. I knew guys who had bows that never shot 'em. I think half those guys lost all their arrows and quit. after I shot my 1st deer that was it I was really hooked
 
#21 ·
That's a tough one. I started shooting as a kid, so my first compound bow I went with a Hoyt because I already knew I liked shooting. If you aren't sure if it is for you maybe a budget bow is a smart way to try something new. However, if you think you'll enjoy it I would recommend getting a nicer bow to begin with. You'll end up spending that money eventually if you like the sport.
 
#22 ·
Thanks to internet now you can google reviews for most of the bows those are honest opinions about the performance of the bows. Before you go out buying a bow you need to get some advice from someone that knows the sport to tell you the characteristics of the bow that will fit you : draw length, left or right handed, poundage, axle to axle, weight, etc. Once you have the spec's I will recommend as some of the fellows did above to look for a used flagship bow. In this forum you will find really nice options. Starting with a good quality bow will help you to see improvement faster and will hook you in this wonderful sport. Good luck
 
#23 ·
I was in your spot 2 months ago. I had no experience, did not know what poundage I wanted, I just knew I wanted to shoot targets for fun/practice and hunt deer and Turkey. I wanted to start with a low draw weight to work on my form and slowly build up my weight. I went with a mathews vertix for 3 reasons. First the switch weight technology would let me easily change draw weight. Second, the local shop sold Mathers, third several hunters I respect said you can't go wrong with the bow or the shop. If I had more experience I would have ventured further and tried a few different bows.
 
#33 ·
all depends on your budget. i would personally start with a bow more on the cheaper side with a lot of forgiveness and make sure that this was something i really wanted to invest in. as we all know once you're in you're in.
 
#34 ·
Just starting off as well, I take the approach I have forever with firearms. I once was told “skills trump tools” also keeping in mind that good tools sure do help. That being said, I leaned towards budget because I know that the super special differences are things I will hardly notice at my skill level. I wanted something that would last, but I also knew I had a lot of skill building to go. If I bought a flagship bow with all the bells and whistles and didn’t spend the time perfecting my skills, it would be money wasted. So my thought is, why not stay within my budget and fine tune my abilities. Also, saving money on the equipment side has opened up more hunting possibilities haha.
 
#36 ·
Here is my advice for a first bow. Go with a bow that has a large draw weight and draw length adjustment. Why? When you first start shooting you will be using muscles you typically don't use and you may find yourself struggling to pull much draw weight. By buying a bow with large draw weight adjustment you can easily build your strength up.

The reason I also encourage beginners to get bows with sliding draw length modules is due to the fact it's not uncommon for beginners to fiddle with draw length as they work on improving their shooting form and or try different releases.

PSE, Diamond, Bear and Mission have bows that meet this criteria.

One last suggestion, you want your beginning draw weight to be where you can pull back the bow comfortably about 30 times in 10-15 minutes. Let this be the bottom weight adjustment of the weight range of the bow.

A great thing about these kind of bows is that once you are ready to upgrade you can keep them for a girlfriend, spouse, child, or friend to go shoot archery with you. Or if you decide to sell they are very easy to sell.

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#38 ·
Bought a upper budget 3 months ago to see if I would enjoy archery and to see if I could use a compound due to a neck injury. well 3 months later I have both a starter and a flagship lol Carbon Icon and now a Bowtech SR6 I shot everyday almost and did hours of research-and found the holy grail for me, Now I can keep or sell the other No rush but will still get decent money since its only 3 months old Cheers and good luck