Wow! Well you saved me 40 bucks was going to try some. Why they don't beef up the ring and cup is beyond me. Congrats by the way.

 

I’m glad that you were able to find her. That my friend is the reason I shoot fixed blades

 

My thoughts as well. Pros and cons of mechanical heads and of fixed heads. When mechanical heads perform perfectly and ya hit the vitals the results are excellent! But when they fail to perform as advertised, results can be utterly disappointing! Glad ya recovered it!

 

looks like the entry and exit were almost on the same plane, if so, cavity filled up with blood not leaving a blood trail.
was that sharp never shot set of blades on it?
Did the arrow stick innto the ground after passing through?
what did the holes in the lungs look like? could you see where all 3 blades made a cut?

 

what did the holes in the lungs look like? could you see where all 3 blades made a cut?

…doesn’t the carni-FOUR have 4 blades? BH in the picture looks like it has 3

 

Entry was definitely higher.
I was 25 foot up in a tree. Exit on the inside of cavity did not open fully . Looked the same as the entrance. Brand new head . Passed through and was laying on too of leaves . Not burried at all. We are talking almost 700 yards on a double lung shot on a doe.

 

Something doesn’t add up here, I have seen atleast 20 animals die with carni fours and the entry and exit holes are much larger than that, I have also never seen a perfect double lung arrow with meat, hair and very little blood, I don’t care what broadhead your using. This is what entry holes from carni fours look like, and yes it was my 10 yr old shooting that crossbow on the ground 13 yds,

 

I'm mostly surprised at the entry/exit locations at 25 yds from 25' up. I was thinking ground blind when I first looked, but pics can be deceiving.

 

i bet with the blades being messed up the arrow didnt travel a straight line through the deer.

 

I’ve had massive exits with the same head . Killed the last 4 of my bucks with them . What doesn’t add up? . Something happened between entry and exit that split the expander cup and wedged the blade from opening. I followed blood ranging from quarters to playing card size full of bubbles . Then it went to pin drops. Kept on the trail and bumped her twice and the last time she got up and fell over . How she made it that far on a double lung shot absolutely blows my mind

 

even how the head ended up, i am surprised that deer made it that far. holes don't look much different than what you would expect from a standard size fixed head, and it passed through.... weird scenario for sure, but even with the head not functioning properly, that deer was crazy tough, i imagine the lungs had pretty good damage regardless

 

The fletchings were covered in light pink blood with bubbles . I knew I smoked her . Shot was 25yds and I was 20-25ft up in the tree

 

Congratz on finding the deer even after it went that far..great shot and awful broadhead performance. I've used reapers in past and never had an issue like that but yet never shot the carni.

 

this is a pic of the entry and exit before I rolled her over . The entrance is clearly higher than the exit. When I looked at the exit side on the inside it was same as the entrance possibly smaller

 

Wow, thats a crazy one…looks like a perfect shot.

Q- were the blades dull when you recovered the head? Ive seen the skinny blades on some of those type heads dull badly on contact…then push but don’t cut.

 

The 3 out of the 4 remaining blades where sharp. One was wedged shut from the expander cup breaking and one was gone completely

 

I took a 6x6 bull elk in September with the grim reaper pro series mechanical. The 3 blade model. I've never shot the carni4 but my pro series 3 blade put a bull in the freezer. Just sayin

 

One of the 1.5” blades broke off . I’m assuming on impact . Since it surely didn’t come out of the exit hole . One blade broke off and the expander cup split and wedged the other blades from opening

 

Was this a brand new head or one that had been used before? I’ve seen 20-30 deer shot with these things and they have all been devastating to the deer but I’ve also never reused a head.

 

I like my blades out before I shoot.

 

First of all, good shooting!. This is why I prefer the minimag because the blades are shorter so the blades themselves are more stout and durable and because they are shorter they put less leverage on the cups. Also this is why I use the cups from the 125grain version because the cups are more stout. That said the cups are the weak link on these heads and especially with the 4 blade version because there's 4 slits in them instead of 3. I think in the Grim reaper line if I were to use the longer blades I would favor their 3 blade offerings.

That being said and knowing the weaknesses of the cups, the Grim Reaper minimag is still my favorite head by a wide margin.

 

Did you clip the bottom of the shoulder blade going in?

 

One bad experience is no more a pattern than one hurricane is climate change. Shtuff happens. I’ve killed lots of deer with reapers and lost a couple with fixed heads. I applaud your recovery efforts

 

i agree mostly, but i wouldn't trust that head either.... most of that is because we have so many good options today. 100% agree on your climate analogy

 

Crazy stuff happens sometimes man. Just how the universe works.

 

Don't want to jak this thread or anything. But that is exactly why I shoot fixed, what if .

I know that the blades are almost guaranteed to open , but with my luck...

 

Oh yeah , looks tasty

 

Great recovery and very interesting story. If you hadn’t found her, the posts, responses would have been very different… after a lifetime of hunting, 45 years, and 16 years on AT, I’ve seen, heard, experienced a lot and have had multiple perfect shots with every type of broadhead (see pic) do things that surprised me Including bloodless double long kills, bloodless heart shots to name a few. I always read these “perfect shot but lost my deer” threads with skepticism but always know that weird stuff happens and am happy when persistence pays off….. congrats!

 

Broadhead collection…

 

Broadhead collection…

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That’s fantastic

 

Crazy things sure happen, even with the blades all jacked up that shot should result in a short trail! What did the hole in the lungs look like?

I would absolutely not shoot them again after that, does not matter if every shot in the history of the world from that head produced perfect results, something fails me and I am done!

Crazy things happen when two moving objects connect, I bet she was starting to react to the shot. Someone needs to come up with a way to test broadheads hitting a moving target, I bet some crazy thinds would happen!

 

She had no idea I was there . She didn’t drop the string or anything crazy. Just a freak thing I guess. Going back to the killzones after that one . Probably will never happen again , but I don’t have the confidence in that specific head anymore .

 

Those are the heads I shoot. Don’t know what happened with your deal, but they’ve been brutally efficient at killing for me. I plan to keep using them.

 

The shaft looks damaged and bulging behind the broadhead. It impacted something extremely hard.

NC

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The shaft looks damaged and bulging behind the broadhead. It impacted something extremely hard.

NC

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Shaft was sanded with sandpaper after I had foam from a 3d Target stuck to it. Hit nothing hard .