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I tried one and think they may be helpful in certain situations, especially if your caller is behind you coaxing a bull in. Just raise and lower the head to mimmick a feeding cow and provide something to visually hold the bull's attention and overcome any hesitation he may have. Small weight penalty compared to other deeks. Not ideal for every situation but worth carrying IMHO. I did a crapton of research on these and they seem to work well...when they work.

 

Great bull and video!
Congrats.

 

I have one, but I'm not going to carry it. The last thing I need is one more thing to think about when it's game time.

 

Sounds a lot like me. Buy first... decide later. :tongue:

LOL - My big purchase this year will probably be a Phelps "UNLEASHED" Bugle Tube to add to my collection. $40 :doh:

 

I'd guess that Al Morris has as much experience with decoys as anybody and he says flashing them is the way to go. I have 3 decoys and never thought any of them were worth the money till I had a Bull charge in a few years ago as I was trying to fold the decoy and it kept flying open. One of those hmmm moments.
A hand size plastic spring clamp from harbor Freight holds it on the back of my pack, no leg poles.

 

I've hung it off a tree and cow called from behind it, moved off to the side and had cows come charging to it. Only tried it once and it worked but I find most of the time it is just added pack weight as I don't take the time to do setups where I think it would shine.

 

Do they exhibit any evidence of UV brighteners like the Montana brand decoys?

do you have any more info on this?

 

I've done the testing. They glow like light stick

 

I plan on picking one up before my hunt this fall.

 

I'm not a guy that subscribes to the UV claims. I like the heads up decoy...


Last year we couldn't get close enough to a herd bull to give him a look...but once this satellite saw it, it was all over....25yds broadside to me...and about 18 yds frontal to my buddy.

 

I'm not a guy that subscribes to the UV claims. I like the heads up decoy...


Last year we couldn't get close enough to a herd bull to give him a look...but once this satellite saw it, it was all over....25yds broadside to me...and about 18 yds frontal to my buddy.
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Looks like you hit him high, and your buddy hit him with a frontal? Who tagged the bull?

 

You mean like this decoy?

Naw, they don't work....grin

EID, i never shot.....I held at full draw and was going to give my buddy 5 seconds then shoot....he shot on the count of 3.

His first shot was the frontal. As you can see its a bit off center as the bull was quartering just a bit. Its about as bad a frontal as a guy can take....and it just goes to show how effective that frontal is; a deadly shot location for sure. We had good blood the whole trail but found the bull lolling his head around so my buddy walked over and shot him again [the high shot]
Heres the frontal blood trail...

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The one thing I can say about these decoys is you will get a lot of frontal shots hunting solo....so be ready for that. In this case it was a layup broadside shot for me as he was holding the decoy....I just decided to let him shoot first if he wanted to.

 

I personally do not take UV into account. I am not sure how we could avoid it during the printing process. I haven't done any personal testing, but I think nearly all camo patterns have UV issues. Regarding the decoy, I have not seen any effect on the decoy. We have deer and elk within feet of us every year. Full sun, cloudy days, sun in our face, sun to our backs...It's all about timing, the right presentation, and the animal's frame of mind. IMO. Good luck this fall to everyone.

GR
Heads Up Decoy

 

You will be glad to know your decoy has no UV brighteners in it at all. Tested it yesterday. Thumbs up:thumbs_up

 

I think there's something to the UV thing as it applies to camo; I think it reduces camo effectiveness.

But for something like a decoy that you WANT the animal to notice, I doubt it's going to have much of a negative effect, most of the time.
I mean the bull elk seeing a decoy with a little UV glow is probably thinking "Hey-there's a COW!", not-"Hey-there's a cow, but she seems to be blushing just a little too much; I'm outta here!"

I dunno-just speculatin'...

 

I think there's something to the UV thing as it applies to camo; I think it reduces camo effectiveness.


I dunno-just speculatin'...

Yeah, i think we all are just speculating.

My take; I think many animals see a higher degree of UV light fluoresced things ["things" for lack of a better term] ..but it sure doesn't seem to hurt my hunting.

Take a fact like; certain nocturnal reptiles, butterflies, Bees, etc see differently than humans as we have a protective layer in our eyes that filters damaging UV light. Reindeer can distinguish UV fluoresced lichens they prefer. If reindeer and caribou can see UV....then there is no reason why elk and deer would not be able to see UV fluoresced things. But then if they saw UV as if from a black light...wouldn't their eyes be burned out by their 4th birthday from damaging UV rays?

The whole question is to what degree? That decoy worked like a charm...brand new right from the box- UV and all. So if you shine a black light on the deke, will it glow...probably. But if you could somehow ratchet down the black light to something replicating the normal light spectrum in my experience....I bet its insignificant.

I liken this blacklight/ UV to a bacteria or micro organism living on your skin. These micro org's are insignificant...but if you looked at them in powerful microscope....they would scare the heck out of ya!
Again, degrees.


I've had elk walk within feet of me a few times...how can that be if I was glowing as if under a black light? There is obviously degrees of this effect....how much is too much? I don't know but it hasn't been a big negative influence while hunting. Personally, I think movement is 100x whatever the UV factor is....elk and deer will pick you off sure as heck if you move.

Lastly, its interesting that the folks most assertive about this UV....are the same ones pushing a product.

 

...or there's a cow somebody else just nailed, look at that afterglow! ROTF!

 

Lol!

 

BTW- Love the after glow comment Bruce... LMAO

 

Ooow wow...thank you cow.

 

Yeah she likes that

 

How easy are these to use solo with a stick bow?

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Pretty cool little product. I like the build. It's light and versatile.

 

Going to play with it next weekend

 

Does anyone have any preference to these over the Ultimate Predator decoys? Seem similar.


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Havent seen those

 

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LOL - Anyone ever see a decoy like this?

 

LOL - Anyone ever see a decoy like this?

Not exactly. Looks homemade... but, it's something I've been threatening to make for a decade now.

 

https://jet.com/product/detail/b98b...nt&c=783891037&is_retargeting=true&clickid=f0146a6d-b266-43ec-8d00-e6bb24a2f455

AND then... there's this rain hat. :tongue:

 

I would say the heads up is completely different from that. In no way attached to the bow.

 

I will try and find some pics. Or break it out and get new ones!

 

I'm really not interested in it for the laugh-factor.
More, for the idea of something I could build.