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It is possible for a deer to be heart shot and go over 100 yards. Generally when heart shot they run as fast as possible till they drop. Running with a heart that isn't working properly produces less blood and spreads it over a longer distance. Arrow coming out low like that sounds, could possibly block the hole some. The bigger the hole, the quicker they die. But if you really want them to leave a great blood trail and die fast, put a big hole through
both lungs. Bleeding out both sides, the mouth and nose a blind man could follow the blood trail. Deer can't run but 50 yards at most with a big hole through both lungs.
Make a hole as big as the Grim Reaper 1/38" through both lungs and you can watchem' drop.
 
I heart shot 2 deer yesterday. The first left the best blood trail I have ever followed while the other was just little faint pin drops most of the way and she went over 300 yards. Shot placement was nearly identical on both. Same head used both times.
 
Friend heart shot a doe the other day with a 1 3/4 inch grim reaper, slight quartering away and no exit, arrow went into brisket are, nearly no blood trail for 120 yards, used his dog to find the deer, we would have found her but it would have taken waaay longer. I recommended he switch to the 1 3/8th reaper for more penetration!

thirdhandman, not always!!!!
 
I shot a buck last night with slick trick viper trick clean pass through shot through both front shoulders im shooting 70# chillr. I followed specks of blood to the deer I was amazed at the little bit of blood that he left behind. The slick trick punched through but left no blood trail
 
i wonder if the blood trail was just in a different place than you were looking, its hard for me to think that a deer smoked in the heart wouldn't be bleeding
 
I shot a doe a few years back that did bleed after the shot but the arrow didn't have a single drop of blood on it. I found her and upon gutting her...confirmed that there was a hole in the heart. Certainly made me second guess the shot until I found her.
 
deer went 35 yards? i wouldn't complain about that BH at all

sounds like it flew true and did was it was supposed to, it made a QUICK kill and the deer went 35 yards, sounds like a good product to me, plus you shot it straight across and not at an angle
 
On any hit and blood trail there is so many things which can cause not to bleed. Take a look at this lung hit with the stinger buzzcut from a customer. I have bowhunted 35 years, and I have had blood trails a blind man could follow and I have had some where it was spotty. thanks

 

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so how did they get that video??? ive seen it before on here and ive heard others ask.. did they have the deer in a vice of some sort holding it there.??
 
so how did they get that video??? ive seen it before on here and ive heard others ask.. did they have the deer in a vice of some sort holding it there.??
lol.

When I found the arrow I hit with it was covered and dripping with blood, not another spot on the ground after that, the cavity was loaded with blood. The only thing I can think of for it was the bleeder failed to do the job and the hit being horizontal, ever time the deer stretch out it closed the wound. Deer was dead, arrow flew true, massive blood lose killed it quickly, just no trail, blood trail that is.

I've never had any problems with a 3 blade thunderhead and blood. I think that configuration with razors is about perfect. Love the snuffers, need more, places don't seem to have them. Bass pro doesn't.
 
I know the head and had the same problem except through both lungs. Your pic looks like what I thought might be the reason, a horizontal hit. The bleeder just doesn't do it.

When the animal stretches out it closes the wound, no blood can come out a closed slice. Love the company and the head, it just has a flaw. I prefer their fixed 3 blade head.
I had this very thing happen this past Saturday with likely the same head. Aimed about 1/3 up from the bottom of the chest and hit my spot, but the hit was horizontal from the appearance of the impact and likely only took out one lung. Lots of frothy blood the first 100 yards, then over 1/2 mile of tedious tracking for the next few hours. We finally jumped a deer that looked like the doe and it ran on to private land that we do not have permission to go. Previous results were good, but the horizontal slit was too limiting.......so I got out some Hellrazors and touched them up for the next hunt.
 
wvbowhunter-the deer was not held in a vice for the testing. no disrespect to anyone, because nothing is impossible, but the theory on the bleeder blade being to small causing a lack of blood trail is not true. Has you can see in the video, the video was done with a magnus stinger buzzcut 4 blade, I have attached pictures of the size hole the heads leave. There are so many variables when it comes to blood trails and most are related to shot placement. thanks
 

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I shot Em with a 50 Cal ml in the heart and had no blood after the hit.
 
I've shot several deer with Magnus buzzcuts and have had great blood trails on all kinds of shots. I have found that center punching the heart leads to a longer tracking job with less blood than a double lung shot. I take lots of close shots so I end up hitting one lung and the heart a lot....that does the trick
 
Deer live on the oxygen in their blood. Shoot a really big artery and blood will be pumped everywhere to the ground by the heart. Shoot a hole through the heart and you have stopped the pump from pumping the blood anywhere. The blood is mostly all still in the deers system and he will live on it for a while before the oxygen is depleted. This is why heart shot deer can go a long way sometimes.
 
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wvbowhunter-the deer was not held in a vice for the testing. no disrespect to anyone, because nothing is impossible, but the theory on the bleeder blade being to small causing a lack of blood trail is not true. Has you can see in the video, the video was done with a magnus stinger buzzcut 4 blade, I have attached pictures of the size hole the heads leave. There are so many variables when it comes to blood trails and most are related to shot placement. thanks
how the heck theyd get that video.. haha sorry just trying to figure out how they did it

.. earlier in the thread i finally realized heart was blown up "not pumping probably" and high entrance wound.. and guts clogged exit.. like i said deer only went 35 yrds just was brushy n hard to find.
 
Same happened to me last season, perfect center punch no blood. Doe only went 60 yards

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with a perfect heart shot like this is actually high on the heart, this is approx. where the SA node is for the heart. it is what communicates to the heart muscles to pump, no communication no pump. so the deer is actually leaking blood NOT pumping it out, so the deer can run further by using the current blood/oxygen it has in its cells holding the static pressure longer.. if you hit higher and severe the aorta it will keep on pumping and lose more blood faster than the true heart shot as shown above.
 
All of this proves my point lung shots (both lungs) is way better than heart shot can't breath can't run
But a broadside heart shot usually low entrance or exit you get blood quartering to entrance a lot of fat meat bone to stop what blood you get quartering away same thing entrance is back long way for blood to travel
 
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