Just finished part one. Pretty good podcast so far.

 

Just finished part 2. I am liking the debate between these two.

 

I haven't listened to these yet but I will.

I've read Johns books and have listened to some of his interviews. The scent speal is hard for me to buy from anyone. But I've learned some things from him. He's a big saddle guy too but again not my cup of tea

I've listen to ALL of Infalts podcasts and have watched his videos. I've learned more form Dan in a these than all of my 30 years of bow hunting....

 

X2! Infalt is the Hunting beast for a reason. One of the most knowledgeable bowhunters out there. Wish I would found him 40 years ago woulda shortened my extensive learning curve ALOT![emoji6]

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Both great hunters. Just because John says he does something doesn't mean he actually practices it in the field. I think I've learned more from Dan also.

 

I've definitely learned more from watching and listening to Dan.

 

I have enjoyed everything Dan Infalt has put out! I believe he is the real deal without any sponsorship bias or influences. The other feller, not so much!

NC

 

I agree Dan is a real deal genuine dude and always willing to explain what he knows.

 

I'm just starting to get into beast tactics but I've read Johns books and been listening to him speak for a few years now. He definitely accelerated my learning and has helped me hunt sign more effectively.

Both are excellent and very well accomplished hunters. When either talks I try to listen and, even if what they're saying doesn't fit my personal style of hunting, understand that their success is based on their confidence in their tactics. Great podcat and will definitely be looking forward to parts 2 and 3.


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Don't know the Eberhart guy, But Dan has more deer hunting knowledge than just about anyone I have seen. I watched his last video and had to take it in at 45 minute blocks. I kept going back and rewatching segments. I hunt 90% hill country and after watching his video, everything that I had been seeing in the hill country woods started to make since.

I like his videos. He isn't a pretty clean cut "FANBOY" that the sponsors are after which is fine with me because in his videos he isn't trying to sale anything other than his experience and knowledge. I will take the advice of a guy in a ragged out flannel shirt that puts down big bucks on public land year after year, over the advice of a TV show guy wearing high priced camo that someone paid him to wear, that kills private land deer.

Like I said......Not bashing the Ebernart guy because I don't know him....but Dan is the man.

 

dan > john

 

I've read John's books. He's wind and scent control anal. I'm surprised to hear him say he doesn't hunt the wind.

 

Look at his sponsors. Forget the wind, just hunt.

 

Don't know John but anyone claiming they don't worry about the wind is selling something i ain't buying. And scent loc has been on that list since it came out. Dan only regurgitates what he learned from Andrae. And i can promise you every successful trophy hunter plays the wind. Even if they are sponsored by scent loc, ozonics or any other gimmick scent control product.

 

Wind is all I worry about. I don't have a fancy scent suit, so I depend on dousing my clothes in scent spray, hunting the wind and hoping if the wind swirls, it is not when I have a shooter buck in the vicinity.

 

Both are great hunters with different approaches to hunting.

scentlok?.......:lol:

Eberhardts tactics are more applicable for most hunters.

Dan is probably the better woodsman by far.

scentlok???......yup, that's all a crock. But I take what I can use and leave the rest.

 

well when your up in a tree 25' the wind doesn't matter as much as when your on the ground, and since he hunts mostly from a saddle way up in a tree, his statement about not caring about the wind that much is probably mostly true. not sure why everyone thinks its a conspiracy.

 

I think because of the way he gives the credit to scent loc suit and not the distance he's off the ground.


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Dan is the man!

 

I'd take Dan's advice on the deer woods over just about anyone else's.

 

Both are successful in their pursuit of whitetails. I give kudos to John on the way he hunts, (high and from a sling) and being in great shape for his age. But...Dan is the man! John talks in absolutes. The fact that Dan (you) can locate a buck bed after season, slip back in there and kill that/a buck from that bed the following season was "The craziest thing he ever heard", according to John. The craziest thing I ever heard?... "Forget the wind, just hunt".

 

Well put. I have of course read all johns stuff and he is no doubt. good hunter but Dan is at that next level.

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What's the podcast called of Dan's to listen to him?


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You can search his name on the iTunes store for other people's podcasts he's appeared on. His podcast is on the Hunting Beast YouTube channel.


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I think Dan would win in a wrestling match too. :smile:

 

I don't think you can really compare the two or say one person is a "better hunter", they are both amazingly successful hunters but have two totally different styles of hunting. I live in the area that John hunts a lot in southern MI, and for him to be killing the deer that he does in this area is pretty amazing. The amount of pressure that these grounds get is intense, from Oct. 1 archery/crossbow season to the orange army of the Nov. 15 gun season, which essentially goes until Jan 1 now. I don't totally agree with some of his beliefs on scent control either, but I have read his books and he gets total respect from me. I think the biggest factor in their success (John and his son Chris) is the year round scouting and preparation. John has said in a few podcasts that he doesn't really care about the wind, and he is obviously a firm believer in activated carbon technology, but I don't think it's all sponsor driven. He really knows all of the science behind it and he really believes in it. Listen to Podcast #18 of "Deer Hunter Podcast", I think that is the one where he goes in to his beliefs on the science of activated carbon. If you honestly believe that something works that's half the success right there. That being said, I think he is also a scent control nut, not just showers and washing, but to the extent of changing his diet during hunting season, etc. So that probably plays a big role in the success he may have with deer downwind regardless of whether or not the activated carbon works or not. You can't argue with his results on HIGHLY pressured public ground. Dan Infalt is also a slayer in the deer woods, but really a totally different style, and his podcasts, videos, and forum are pretty entertaining and informative, so they both get much respect from me.

 

If you honestly believe that something works that's half the success right there. That being said, I think he is also a scent control nut, not just showers and washing, but to the extent of changing his diet during hunting season, etc. So that probably plays a big role in the success he may have with deer downwind regardless of whether or not the activated carbon works or not.

Please read those sentences again. How does that make sense?

Truly believing something provides no function. False confidence is simply false confidence. I can believe in unaided human flight all I want, but that won't ever get me an inch off the ground. How can believing he's not able to be winded alter the ability of deer to smell him if activated carbon doesn't work? I'm not trying to pick a fight, but those sentences just don't make any sense to me.

 

I really like Dan also. He is as real as it gets, explains things very well and shows you everything he does. He is proof that you dont need a fancy super fast bow, expensive camo or anything to kill big bucks!!

 

Here is the podcats without having to find them in itunes and whatnot. http://www.downsouthhunting.com

 

Thank you!


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What both have in common with every successful individual in their respective realm is learning on their own and not caving in to comparison ..... until now.


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Ok I've listened to both pods I've listened and watched all of Dans pods and vids I've Also listened to several other of johns interviews and have read 2 of his books Both are very successful but I can apply Dans approach for myself. The whole being invisible scent thing I think imo is more of a dream or hope. I do appreciate johns teaching of destination areas and primary scrape areas

I can tel you I haven't found either. I have found beds and trails that lead to beds as Dan taught.

 

That would be my experience also.


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Scentlock/blocker/magic pixie dust suit... what a crock. Eberhart hunts skyscraper high. I wouldn't worry either and believe my "magic" suit.

Dan is legit. I've picked up more knowledge from him and had "holy crap! Now I see it!" Moments from him in just a few short months than in all my years hunting combined.

Emrah


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Amen to that.... I found some of my for sure first beds last week. From on what I've learned from Dan. Simply amazing imo