If you don't like the design, trade it off for something that works for you. Just my $.02

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If you don't like the design, trade it off for something that works for you. Just my $.02

I'd rather build my character by overcoming obstacles. :wink:

 

Dust -

Not sure what you're reading, and in most cases the Internet is not your friend.

1. If canting solves the problem, cant the damn thing and stop worrying about.
2. Trade it in on a better model.
3. If you're not married to the bow, SLIGHTLY enlarge the shelf. It looks solid enough that a 1/8" - 1/4" cut shouldn't hurt it, BUT proceed at your own risk.

Viper out.

 

Thanks, Viper.

I'm only using the bow to increase the range of my abilities, so I'd rather not modify it or replace it. My hesitation towards canting is that I don't want to miss out on a developing a skill that would allow me to shoot the bow vertically, if there actually is one that would work on this bow. My book "Shooting the Stickbow" says that most longbow archers cant the bow, but keeping it on the shelf is only one of the reasons provided.

 

You can build out a shelf with a golf tee and some felt. Take off the grip, glue or double sided tape the golf tee where you want the shelf to be. Put the grip back on at the appropriate place, add small bits of felt or leave as is and enjoy. You can shave or sands down the shaft of the tee so it takers into the grip as well. Super easy. Can be done in about a half hour. Voila.


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Or any piece of wood for that matter. You can contour it so it fits snug on the bow where the grip is and make it look really nice. Just use some tight bond 3 and you’re in business.


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What Viper said.

Im pretty sure that whoever made that bow did it with the intent that it be canted.

 

As someone who switched from shooting longbows for a long time to freestyle recurve, it is really really hard to not cant the bow once you’ve learned that feeling and sight picture. If your goal is to shoot a bow that you will not want to cant, then don’t cant this bow. It will mess you up. I’m still trying to get my bow vertical.


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If your goal is to shoot a bow that you will not want to cant, then don’t cant this bow. It will mess you up. I’m still trying to get my bow vertical.

Interesting point, thank you. How much of a cant did you use with your longbow? I see some people out there are using about 45 degrees. I'm pretty sure I only need 5 degrees or so to keep the arrow in place.

 

Dust -

While a vertical bow is preferably to minimize variables, especially for new shooters, there's nothing wrong with canting a longbow or recurve.
It might just be the path of least resistance.

IIRC that book also mentioned something about doing as little work as possible to make the shot

Greg -

We're all wired differently, but I shoot an Oly bow vertical, a target "bare bow" (note the quotes) vertical and trad recurves and long bows with a slight cant. No biggie.

Viper1 out.

 

I don't understand why why canting or not canting a longbow would be some sort of religious issue. If a cant will allow you to shoot the bow consistently and not worry about arrows falling off the shelf then do it. One of my short, hybrid longbows has a narrow shelf. I personally don't have a problem shooting it vertical or with a cant depending on the shooting conditions.

And I think Viper has a pretty good understanding of what is in that book. Listen to him.

 

I don't understand why why canting or not canting a longbow would be some sort of religious issue

Not a religious issue, but inexperienced people can sometimes take shortcuts that impede future development. As an instructor in another sport, I have to stop students from taking these shortcuts, even if their short-term performance suffers. I'm very inexperienced in archery and my knowledge comes solely from the internet & books, so I want to be careful about what habits I adopt.

 

I have seen pictures of longbows with the leather strike plate/shelf pad extending a bit past the shelf. Also, where a small bit of leather was placed under the grip, and brought up past the shelf, and folded to become the shelf pad. Do a search for Longbow leather rest and you’ll see a variety of ways it has been done with marginal, or nonexistent shelves.

 

Cant the bow to whatever degree is comfortable for you and keeps the arrow on the shelf. I shoot with a slight cant, probably no more than 10 degrees or so. Listen to Viper, he knows what you have been reading.

 

People in my club with bows like yours use their gloved bow hand knuckles as a shelf with a slight cant-- canting can throw another vector in the arrow flight path but slight cants probably won't affect it much especially 20 yds or less. They just have to place their hands on the bow in the same position each time.

 

I always cant the bow as I learned to do 56 years ago. I can shoot vertical but it certainly offers me no advantage. As to degree, 45 degrees is quite a lot though many instinctive shooters can shoot 45 or even 90, but the normal cant is about 15 degrees. If you don't like it, get rid of it.

 

Jtrops has overcome the 'obstacle'.

You could build out a wider arrow rest by rubber cementing a piece of wood, bone, antler, or leather in place. You can use rubber cement to laminate leather, then cut and sand to shape. I would angle the top face of the built up rest to keep the arrow against the bow. If you change your mind, you can just pull the additional rest off and rub the glue off.

 

You can also try shooting Kyudo or Mongolian style, by resting the arrow on the extended thumb and/or index finger. Of course the arrow is placed against the right side of the bow for right-handed. The pinch, tertiary or thumb draw is used, mostly. It doesn't work for bows with a large deep contoured grip. Might be OK for yours though. I shoot like that but I use a right-hand recurve left handed.

 

I second building up the rest, or using the leather “floppy rest”, which is what I do with my selfbows, I don’t put any shelves on those.