[inside X]

Update 550's nano sst shot great. Son shot a 290 half tonight with them and a new personal best on a half.These were found to be very forgiving on a not so perfect shot catching the bottom of the 9 where before with the 1914's would be in the 7 ring. His average was 280 would definitely recommend these to anyone looking for a recurve arrow

Setup is a Hoyt Faktor 34 lbs through the clicker x tour bamboo 32 lb long limbs Nano 550's over length is 31" 120 points spider vanes Beiter pin nocks, Shibuya ultimate rest Beiter clicker. Shrewd Revel stabilizers

 

[limbwalker]

Awesome. I always found the SST's to work very well for my daughter. They were durable too.

 

[Green Ring]

Maybe everyone is ignoring it because it is $40 for 24hrs of access? Or am I missing something?

Paul

Well, this is an X10/NPX thread so $40 is one measly arrow.

And you can use the downloaded article forever, while the arrow only lasts until it hits a brick wall.

 

[Mercail]

So if the SST's are a great arrow, are the NPX worth the extra $130/dozen for us mortals? I'm all about buying nice before buying twice but I have a wife I need to justify any more archery purchases before our vacation this summer.

Is the NPX 5% better? 10%?

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[theminoritydude]

If you don't buy them to try you'd NEVER know the truth.

 

[Mercail]

If you don't buy them to try you'd NEVER know the truth.

Lancaster doesn't sell the SST as a single arrow, only dozen sets. I tried calling them up to get a single SST and NPX to do some testing but they couldn't make it happen.

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[theminoritydude]

I didn’t say buy one. No one does that.

 

[inside X]

I have shot NP in the past they shot great for me and group extremely well.super durable. My problem with my son is that the spine charts from Easton never fell on with his style of shooting and tended to fall way stiff. That is y I was reluctant to spend the money on the Nano pros for fear of wasting money on a arrow that was way to stiff or weak. If I could of had a guarantee that the arrows would have worked I'd dump the money in a heart beat. Especially with these results. Talked to CS at Carbon Express they recommend the 550 and were spot on. Chart called for the 550 also on Carbon Express maybe someone finally got it right

 

[calbowdude]

We can thank Limbwalker for his valuable work in assisting Carbon Express on the arrow spine selection chart. I too have found it very accurate, especially for the light draw weight short draw archers!

 

[vlesiv]

I have a different story - tried NP X-Tremes but what supposed to be the right spine never worked for me (I went thru tuning, trimmed arrows two times and played a lot with tiller bolts) and fletching tape still got torn constantly. Got X10s and things worked immediately on factory settings and “guessed” length of the arrow.

Both arrows are great, i liked NP (they are slimmer than X10) and X10s - I guess until you really try both - you never know what will work for you


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[limbwalker]

Folks, look... they both work for everyone. I'm not sure where this "what works for you" comes from. I've been able to make every arrow I've ever tried "work" for me - meaning tuned and shooting to my capabilities. X10's were the most finicky of them all but I got them to shoot just fine after some sorting. Forgiving arrows are forgiving for everyone, not just a few. If you're not getting the results you expect, then you have selected the wrong spine, components or have made the wrong choices in tuning. Sorry to be blunt but it's really that simple.

Having said that, you tend to get what you pay for in arrows. The real question is at what level do you need to be shooting before you can "justify" (there's a loaded term) the expense of premium arrows? I have some thresholds based on my experience coaching 100's of archers over the past 15 years, but people have different budgets and can justify more or less accordingly.

I don't think any teen needs X10's or NPX's, but you see plenty of them on the line at JOAD Nationals simply because those kids have wealthy parents (yes, you are wealthy if you can afford to buy your kid X10's - don't deny it). The reason I can say that with confidence is because I personally shot enough 330+ scores at 70 meters (and a few 340's in practice) with A/C/E's to know what they are capable of. I've also had several of my students win JOAD Nationals using A/C/E's. For a couple of those archers, X10's would have been a poor choice because of their draw length and draw weight.

But nothing I can say or write here will keep a lot of archery parents from overspending on arrows. They will because they can, and it makes them feel good, and that's all the reasons they need.

Mercail, to answer your question - SST's capable of 330+ at 70 meters. I'd say when an archer is pushing that number, they can then experiment with NPX and X10 to see if they benefit.

 

[ROB@LAS]

As is the case more often than not, I agree with all that limbwalker has said on this thread. We recommend gear that is consummate with the archer's abilities and goals, but always with a budget and growth in mind.

We have Conner and Casey shooting Carbon Express Nano Pro X-treme Recurve arrows for outdoors with great results using the tool steel points. The NPX's are all-carbon and very consistent for spine/weight/straightness. They are about 3% smaller in diameter than X-10's of corresponding stiffness. We're using the Beiter Outnocks on them with great results and zero breakage or cracks on the rear of the shafts. On occasion, I've used my pocket knife to dig the NPX's out of target frames on the field course or when sighting in with no breakage as well.

Casey found that the Nano SST's were more forgiving to shoot indoors than the larger and heavier X-Buster or Maxima Pro Recurve RZ's. She's been shooting 297-299 halves on the 60 cm. JOAD face and 288-293 on the 40 cm target indoors with them. Conner (6'2" @ 16) is shooting his 31" X-Busters very well with medium 40 lb. limbs. We will be making changes for outdoors with both going up 2 lbs. in weight and Conner going with long limbs, but staying with properly spined NPX's. We have several of our JOAD kids shooting Nano SST's and Medallion's for outdoors with great results at a lower cost.

 

[inside X]

Thank you Rob the SST'S were actually recommended from one of your staff members as a great intermediate level arrow . We put these together for Hunter this past week with the Spider vanes and Beiter nocks also recommended. I could not be happier with the outcome of both the arrows along with the knowledge of the LAS staff. See you in a couple of weeks at the Indoor Nationals at LAS.

 

[ROB@LAS]

Thanks Inside X;
I'm glad to hear that the SST's are increasing Hunter's best scores and that also bodes well for outdoors, which is coming soon. My point in listing Casey's scores is that the Nano SST's are MUCH better and more accurate than an intermediate arrow. They are truly world class and easily compare to the ACE's, but with greater durability at a lower cost. Our kids could be shooting any arrow shaft made and they choose Carbon Express Nano.

 

[limbwalker]

Those Medallion XR's in the 1300-2000 spine are just unreal for the price. They deliver performance that far exceeds that of any other arrow in those spine ranges, and have been chosen by multiple winners of JOAD Nationals.

She's been shooting 297-299 halves on the 60 cm. JOAD face and 288-293 on the 40 cm target indoors with them.

:mg::mg::mg:

 

[inside X]

. Starting to come together

 

[luckman88]

Thanks Inside X;
I'm glad to hear that the SST's are increasing Hunter's best scores and that also bodes well for outdoors, which is coming soon. My point in listing Casey's scores is that the Nano SST's are MUCH better and more accurate than an intermediate arrow. They are truly world class and easily compare to the ACE's, but with greater durability at a lower cost. Our kids could be shooting any arrow shaft made and they choose Carbon Express Nano.

Rob - what points and vanes are Casey shooting with?

BTW congratulations on another successful LAS Classic. For those of us who couldn't attend in person, the YouTube and live coverage were top notch.