I think I may have found something

I was searching for h nock and did not get any results but when I tried h-nock I got this:

http://www.wernerbeiter.com/en/prod...ch.php?we_lv_search_search_txt=h-nock&we_from_search_search_txt=1&search=search

 

That might work as long as the small groove works well. I always shoot large groove and haven't tried a small groove model. The H nock is less common. The ID I've seen listed is .234 in inches. Converted to mm (which is what Beiter lists theirs in since they are German) that is 5.94. The nearest large groove option is the 3-49 at 5.90 which may be too loose - not even sure if teflon tape or wax would keep it from spinning on you. The 3-49 is in your chart along with the 1716/75 which is 5.92 so closer in size but it's a small groove and, again, just don't know the implications there. The reality is that is doesn't appear they have a nock specifically designed to fit the H nock (unlike the X nock and G nock - the more common/popular nocks Easton uses). The 5.19 is perfect for the x nock sizes.

I get all my Beiter nocks from Lancaster Archery. They've got pretty decent techs. You could call or inquire online and ask someone how well the 1716/75 fits a bloodline (they would probably even get one of each out and try it for you) and inquire regarding the large vs. small groove.

 

If I can figure out the Beiter size for H nocks I'll let you know.

 

I would if I could find a suitable alternative. I looked at the beiter table but cannot find a replacement.
I have also done a search on AT and it seems there is not alternative.
So my options are to either reserve or change arrows (Easton Bloodline).
I intend on getting some ACCs but until then my best option seems to re-serve.
Of course if any of you guys can find a nock that will fit my arrows I am more than willing to give it a go.

 

For some reason Easton nocks are narrow. Swap out the nocks before you start re-serving.
Very tight nocks are not safe on a compound.

 

They also suffer in accuracy and performance.

 

There is nothing wrong with using .014 Halo for the center serving. I've been using it for years and there are no issues with the loop.

 

I had the same problem on my Hoyt CS 34 ZT using Easton H nocks. I reserved with 0.014 Halo and it is perfect.
Unfortunately I just purchased and installed a new custom string set by a very well known manufacturer and I have the same problem again.
So it looks like I will have to reserve the center serving on a new set of strings :sad:
Either the H nocks are too small or the 28 strands in the string have to be served with a smaller thread.

 

I had the same problem on my Hoyt CS 34 ZT using Easton H nocks. I reserved with 0.014 Halo and it is perfect.
Unfortunately I just purchased and installed a new custom string set by a very well known manufacturer and I have the same problem again.
So it look like I will have to reserve the center serving on a new set of strings :sad:

Never met a stock or custom string that Beiter nocks don't fit (not saying it isn't possible but highly unlikely). I don't know what size Beiter fits the H nock but I'm sure they have one.

 

Sounds like your serving may have been on the fat side but hard to know without seeing it. I suspect the Beiters may have worked without the need to reserve but hard to know for sure. Either way, you should at least also consider a nock change. IMO the x nocks are by far the worst nocks Easton has ever come up with. The Beiter nocks are sooo much better than x nocks and well worth the $ IMO (no they aren't cheap but I think they are the best nocks on the planet). Your impressions of the assymetrical design are wrong. They work perfectly on a compound with a d loop. I've been using them in exactly that manner for many, many years. As mentioned above, the 5.19 is the size you want. I'm shooting 5.19 out of Black Eagle Rampages now and shot them out of Axis before that. My Dad and son using them on Axis as well. You literally couldn't pay me enough money to shoot an X nock instead. Archery/bowhunting is WAY to important to me to use cheap substandard equipment. To each his own but just thought I'd share my opinion on the topic.

 

id reserve the string with a smaller diameter center serving until you get the know fit you desire.

 

I reserved with .14 Halo and now it's perfect. Thank you guys for the advices and tips.

 

Thx guys, I will give it a try.

 

The Beiter asymmetrical nocks will work fine in compound shot with a release. I tried them a few years ago with no problems. I don't use them any more because they cost more and don't provide any advantage over other nocks.

Just be sure that you have them all turned the same way. One of the guys at my club didn't realize that they are asymmetrical and couldn't understand why he was getting highs and lows. I let him struggle for a couple of ends before I showed him the problem.

 

Follow Kroniik's advice. Germany is home of one of the best nock makers period, Beiter. Also just to help you out a little further you are looking specifically for a Beiter 5,19 (or sometimes listed 5.19) nock. These are for any .204 inside diameter shaft. Buy a dozen and try them. Might work, it might not. But unless you have the equipment to do it yourself it would be easier and you would have a better nock.

 

Thanks a lot for your research, but the Beiter 5,19 nock is a asymmetrical nock, made for finger shooters or release shooters without (!) d-loop. Means that the basement of the nock isn't "straight" ...
Hard to explain, take a look here and you will know what I mean: http://www.wernerbeiter.com/de/informationen/datenblaetter/Nocke.pdf

I need a Beiter Hunter nock, but they aren't available with the correct diameter.

 

Unless you don't like the nocks you've been using, replace the center serving.
Aside from being the proper solution, it will almost certainly be cheaper and faster than replacing nocks. The last thing you want to do is try to "modify" the nocks.

 

New nocks or reserve. I've tried filing them and it doesn't work.

 

http://www.wernerbeiter.com/en/products/nocks/

 

Bieter Nocks are made in Germany, so you wouldn't have to go through Customs to get them!
They have a metric sizing chart that is gibberish to me, but they are supposedly top-quality nocks, and they make dozens of different models, in three different throat/string sizes.
Give them a call; I'm positive they can help you!

 

No, I haven't tried other nocks yet, but I can't find nocks with a 0.204 diameter. Do you know some?
The Easton 3D Super nocks are probably too big, because the FMJ is a small diameter arrow and hasn't the "standard diameter" of 9,3mm.

 

Just reserve center serving.. Easy fix. Halo .014 or .017. Some guys use Teflon tape and .014.

 

I haven't found other nocks that fit the inside diameter of the FMJ shafts besides accunocks or illuminated ones.
Ok, accunocks are surely an option, but I would order them only in the last instance, because I'm sick of running to customs.

I don't know the diameter of my serving. I have to find out this evening at home and I only have 400 BCY Multi at home, which has a diamter of .017, I think.
Because the nocks are so tight, I will probably need .014 or .015 to reserve.

The most scary part for me is to get the current serving off the string without damaging the string...

Thank you guys for your replies!

 

Had the same problem and had my center serving re done. Gave me a chance to try tying in my own nock points inside the d loop. Some good threads on here about doing it yourself made a big difference for me......just my .02 cents.

 

Hmmm... did you think to maybe try other nocks?

 

You can order Accunocks of Ebay or directly from there web site. I use them in my Axis shafts not because the X nocks were tight I just like the concept do you know the diameter of your serving?

 

If you dont want to reserve you could try some other nocks??

 

The safest thing to do is to reserve the string with smaller serving. I recently read that sanding or filing the nock can cause stress risers in the nock which can cause them to break.

When using the smaller serving, just serve an inch or so and then check the nock fit. This way you don't have to put on a complete serving and then have to remove it if its fit with the nock is not correct.

 

The correct an ONLY way to fix the problem is to reserve the string. Mess with the nocks and you going to have a bigger problem than you want.
It is highly unusual to get a string today that has the center serving that big.

 

Agree 100% with Dale. DO NOT start filing the throat of the nock, you are just weakening the nock itself. Just reserve the string with a smaller diameter serving thread.
Whenever I have new strings made, I always tell the stringmaker the type nocks I'll be shooting.
Have you tried using different nocks? I use Easton 3D Super nocks, which seem to have a slightly snug but looser fit than the supplied Gold Tip nocks on my XT Hunters.