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I just discovered paracord.. awesome quietness
 
I was curious on my Bear Montana speed so I clocked it at 151. When I got it it had two very large yarn balls on it. I figured that had to slow it down so I took them off and checked the speed and it was 152fps. I was surprised it didn’t make more difference.
Yarn balls weigh next to nothing and since they reshape into something pretty streamline when the bow is fired, there's little resistance from them on the shot. I think that speed reduction when it comes to string silencers is a bit overblown. Likely because people report it based on assumption of a speed loss rather than a measured loss like you did. 1fps is nothing.
 
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I was surprised at the results with all the hype on these string silencers. I took these out because they were big as I’ve ever seen so I knew they had to slow things down.
Years ago on a compound bow I did the same with cat whiskers and I think the reduction was about 2 FPS.
 
I was surprised at the results with all the hype on these string silencers. I took these out because they were big as I’ve ever seen so I knew they had to slow things down.
Years ago on a compound bow I did the same with cat whiskers and I think the reduction was about 2 FPS.
Compounds are little more critical to weight on the string, still not as much as people think but more critical than a recurve/long bow. Personally I think it has to do with the letoff percentage. The higher the letoff, the more difficulty the bow has overcoming that weight on the string to get it moving again. That's why higher percentage of letoff is typically not as efficient and you lose more speed than lower letoff. That's my theory anyway.
 
The Push and Cody Greenwood (Tradlab) did a test last year and found no discernible difference in quieting a bow between fur, yarn, wool, Black Widow “spiders” etc. But the wool and fur do weigh more and absorb water.

I’ve switched paracord sheath. Doesn’t absorb moisture hardly at all and weighs significantly less than fur/yarn. Lightens up the weight on the string so you can put more weight into your arrow (should you choose to).

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I am just using 4 spiders in my fastflight string on my Black Widow. I started with 2, and they helped, but when I added the other 2 it really quieted it down quit a bit. It makes way more noise hitting the target, even inside.
 
I like the look of wool puffs, qiviut(muskox) wool yarn is very light but not very durable. Got sick of picking out sticky seeds, briars, etc. and switched to rubber cat whiskers and they work fine and last. They are heavier, when I first switched on one bow the bare shaft started showing stiff with 2 cat whiskers, cut the top one off and back to straight and just as quiet. Tuned my latest bow with 2 whiskers.
 
I think its been established by tests that yarn balls arent the best perfromance to silence ratio.
In the late seventies chuck Saunders called me and asked me to do a test. He devised machine to count the string vibrations after a arrow was shot. He had determined that my "PUff" silencers would stop the strings movement twice as quick as any other silencer. He wanted me to determine the effects of water on the puffs. To make a long story short. After a 3 hours of testing using a 50,55 & 55 lb bow. I did not find a difference with the puffs dry or wet. I used compound bows for the test. The yarn had a wick factor of .004. It did not hold water after an arrow was shot. The strings that were
not waxed well at that time with bows left in the rain did hold water. Some bows would lose as much cast as shooting a 4 or 5 lb lighter bow.

Keep your strings waxed and your arrows where you want them Earle Bateman
 
In the late seventies chuck Saunders called me and asked me to do a test. He devised machine to count the string vibrations after a arrow was shot. He had determined that my "PUff" silencers would stop the strings movement twice as quick as any other silencer. He wanted me to determine the effects of water on the puffs. To make a long story short. After a 3 hours of testing using a 50,55 & 55 lb bow. I did not find a difference with the puffs dry or wet. I used compound bows for the test. The yarn had a wick factor of .004. It did not hold water after an arrow was shot. The strings that were
not waxed well at that time with bows left in the rain did hold water. Some bows would lose as much cast as shooting a 4 or 5 lb lighter bow.

Keep your strings waxed and your arrows where you want them Earle Bateman
Interesting...thanks for posting
 
I saw a thing years ago where I think it was Dan Toelke likes small puffs...says they work the same as big ones and thats why I have been using.

In fact, I tried offsetting the puffs- heterodyning- and I think it makes my bow slightly quieter.
 
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