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True Ballistic Range rangefinders - true or hype?

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#1 ·
I was reading about these new rangefinders in my Cabelas catalog and the numbers on their illustration don't seem to jive. It has always been my understanding whether shooting uphill or down, it is the true horizontal distance that matters and not actual line of sight. If I were shooting a rifle downhill and the line of sight distance was 350 yards but the true horizontal distance was only 310 yards, I should shoot for 310 yards.

Using the trig formula of c2 = a2 + b2, their 40 yard line of sight example equates to 34 yards hold (horizontal lineal distance I assume) - an archer would have to be about 77' in the air for that calculation. If I'm 25' in a treestand and my target is 40 yards line of sight, I woould aim as if the target is only 37 yards away. If the target is 20 yards away, I know I only need to shoot as if only 18 yards. That's why I try to range spots from the ground back to the tree I'm in instead of from up in the stand. Am I still correct in this thinking or does the earth have a bit more tilt than last year? Thanks.
 
#2 ·
no your right. I was actually just figuring this out last night with a couple of friends and 18 feet up a tree considering the ground is at a 90 degree ang;e below you the distances are only of by less than a yard. I guess these range finders would be good for extreme angles but I see them as pretty much useless for the common bowhunter.

I as you range find distances on the ground when I set up my stand.
 
#5 ·
Using an OptiLogic rangefinder on the Darrington Washington course I found that my cuts from my cut chart and inclinometer varied by more than a couple yards on a few targets on the really long targets. I will continue to use the tape on cut chart on my lower limb and an inclinometer for hunting in very mountainous terrain.
 
#7 ·
They do work. If you are shooting at a deer that is 40 yards away but is on a 30 degree incline (or decline) then you would actually shoot like he is at 35 yards. Maybe for you folks that shoot 400FPS and never take a shot over 20 yards it doesn't matter, but shooting 40+ yards in the mountains will make a difference.
 
#8 · (Edited)
In that example...

Deer at 40 yards away.
You are shootind down a 30 degree slope

You would have to be 69'-3 3/8'" above the deer in that example.

Now I don't know how many of you shoot deer 40 yards away while nearly 70 foot up a tree....but I'm guessing it's far and few between. Even in the mountains 30 degrees would knock your socks off to look down at something that close to it. At that down angle I'd be more concerned with the narrowness of the body rather than the difference in the shot. It may be "possible" to shoot down at 30 degrees....but I suggest someone who thinks it's plausible to get out an incinometer and measure down 30 degrees on their bow as they hold it and see how hard it would be to even bend and shoot like that. To shoot off the side of the mountain like that would require shooting with one hand because the other hand would be holding you to the mountain.

Now here in the real world here's another example.

Deer at 40 yards away.
Hunter 20 foot up a tree.

The on the ground distance is obviously 40 yards (120 feet)
The distance the arrow will travel is 121' - 7 7/8"

So a difference of less than 2 feet or less than a yard. The angle would be 9.46 degrees.