[GREENBALL]

Got mine all fletched up today. I’ve been waiting for an arrow with these specs for years.

 

[j otis]

How do you guys think will be for durability compared to the rip tko

 

[BowsAndBowties]

How do you guys think will be for durability compared to the rip tko

It sounds like they will be just as good even though they come in at a smaller diameter.

 

[BowsAndBowties]

Got mine all fletched up today. I’ve been waiting for an arrow with these specs for years.

I’m super excited. I should be receiving mine in 2 weeks. (Backorder) I decided to go with 5.5” bohning wraps and the 2.8” alpha vanes all neon yellow. Should be a killer set up.

 

[Molios03]

I just built my set earlier this week and I’m getting FOC of 18.23% 440 TAW with the standard AAE IP Nock and 16.32% with Halo lighted nocks 453 TAW.

Shoots around 306 fps out of my Lift X 33” with 30” dl at 75lbs.

HLR 300 28” ctc
100 grain point
75 grain brass Easton HIT
8 grain podium collar
3 - 2.75 TAC driver vanes at 5.6 gn each
5.2 grain white wrap using Oracal 651 vinyl cut at 3.8 x .95”
8.2 gn AAE IP5 Nock
Or 21 gn with Halo lighted nocks.

I don't know how you are getting that weight so low. I'm running a.166 300 spline 29ctc vap tko with 100 grain field point, 75 grain insert, 4 grain wrap, 7.3 grain ip nock, and 18 grains of bohning x vanes and mine is coming in at 483.3 with 15.97% foc. What am I missing?

 

[stewart248]

I don't know how you are getting that weight so low. I'm running a.166 300 spline 29ctc vap tko with 100 grain field point, 75 grain insert, 4 grain wrap, 7.3 grain ip nock, and 18 grains of bohning x vanes and mine is coming in at 483.3 with 15.97% foc. What am I missing?

The VAP TKO weighs quite a bit more grains per inch.

 

[BowsAndBowties]

I don't know how you are getting that weight so low. I'm running a.166 300 spline 29ctc vap tko with 100 grain field point, 75 grain insert, 4 grain wrap, 7.3 grain ip nock, and 18 grains of bohning x vanes and mine is coming in at 483.3 with 15.97% foc. What am I missing?

Yeah the TKO assuming your shooting is 9.5gpi whereas the new HLR is 8.1gpi. So on your 29” ctc your a whopping 40.6 grains heavier just in shaft weight.

 

[Molios03]

Yeah the TKO assuming your shooting is 9.5gpi whereas the new HLR is 8.1gpi. So on your 29” ctc your a whopping 40.6 grains heavier just in shaft weight.

well that makes a lot of sense. Thanks

 

[BowsAndBowties]

I just built my set earlier this week and I’m getting FOC of 18.23% 440 TAW with the standard AAE IP Nock and 16.32% with Halo lighted nocks 453 TAW.

Shoots around 306 fps out of my Lift X 33” with 30” dl at 75lbs.

HLR 300 28” ctc
100 grain point
75 grain brass Easton HIT
8 grain podium collar
3 - 2.75 TAC driver vanes at 5.6 gn each
5.2 grain white wrap using Oracal 651 vinyl cut at 3.8 x .95”
8.2 gn AAE IP5 Nock
Or 21 gn with Halo lighted nocks.

Do you not like the steel inserts that come with the HLR?

 

[ID357]

It sounds like they will be just as good even though they come in at a smaller diameter.

The RIP TKO and HLR are both 5mm shafts.

 

[ID357]

Thee USPS goofballs never loose a bill do they.

Not in my experience. They only lose the stuff I want.😭

 

[BowsAndBowties]

The RIP TKO and HLR are both 5mm shafts.

Yes that is correct my mistake. I meant same durability at a lighter weight.

 

[mikenutto837]

I just built my set earlier this week and I’m getting FOC of 18.23% 440 TAW with the standard AAE IP Nock and 16.32% with Halo lighted nocks 453 TAW.

Shoots around 306 fps out of my Lift X 33” with 30” dl at 75lbs.

HLR 300 28” ctc
100 grain point
75 grain brass Easton HIT
8 grain podium collar
3 - 2.75 TAC driver vanes at 5.6 gn each
5.2 grain white wrap using Oracal 651 vinyl cut at 3.8 x .95”
8.2 gn AAE IP5 Nock
Or 21 gn with Halo lighted nocks.

This is a nice set up here

 

[mikenutto837]

I don't know how you are getting that weight so low. I'm running a.166 300 spline 29ctc vap tko with 100 grain field point, 75 grain insert, 4 grain wrap, 7.3 grain ip nock, and 18 grains of bohning x vanes and mine is coming in at 483.3 with 15.97% foc. What am I missing?

.166 are heavy in gpi compared to the HlR. It was designed for lighter gpi to increase foc easier.

 

[Molios03]

Victory HLR 300 cut 27" carbon to carbon
Stock 50 grain steel insert
125 grain point
4" Oracle 651 wrap
Bohning A nock
three Tac Driver 2.75" vanes

Total arrow weight 426 grains 17% FOC.
Add a Halo nock and you will be at 440 grains and 15% FOC.

How are you adding 14 grains of nock and dropping 2% FOC. What kind of sorcery are your practicing?

 

[mikenutto837]

I’m looking at 300 spine Victory HLR I’m building this setup for 2 things primary hunting, whitetails and turkeys. Secondary, 3d target shooting for fun, challenges events etc..
I’m at 71.9lb draw on my Mathews lift x 29.5
I would to be around 430gr 17-20% foc.
I would also like to use a lighted nock. I’m open to hearing suggestions on vanes, inserts, arrow wraps and such.

You have to do the numbers against insert or head weight. I prefer going to 125 grain head with a normal insert.
This can all depend your overall wants. At 70lbs a 300 spine should be good at 28 in draw. I've been using gold tip black quantum for some time they ate close in gpi to the HLR. Im at 418 grain on a 340 spine. But I'm shooting 65lbs the I sent on the gold tip is 21 grain.
Im also shooting a rip tko that is a heavier gpi but the insert is 12 gpi so I come in the same grain window as the gold tip. The tko however offers more insert choices like a stainless insert. Which help increase strength in the front on the arrow shaft itself. You can still reach close gpi by going to 100 grain head. Testing all this is a bit costly but you see different results from the arrows themselves by changing things up.
For distance shooting im using the nock on 23 vane. This is also another area you can mess with getting better foc or arrow stability. The 23 is not going to support larger fixed blade heads but for distance shooting they seem to work amazing. If im shooting a fixed head I switch over to the tac vanes in 2.75. They are very light compared to the aae vanes.
My next tests will be with dca vanes

 

[BowsAndBowties]

This is a nice set up here

I agree I swapped to 125gr broad head and used the 50gr steel inserts that come with them. I’m also running 2.8 alpha vanes

 

[Pahunter1987]

How are you adding 14 grains of nock and dropping 2% FOC. What kind of sorcery are your practicing?

Well, a lightweight shaft, light to medium total arrow weight and a concentration of mass in the front of the arrow. I was also rounding numbers. The actual FOC for those two arrows were 17.1%, and 15.0%. With a 125 grain point, a 50 grain insert, and that Halo nock. 41.590% of the total mass is in the first inch or so of the shaft. With the Bohning A nock, it’s 42.957% of total mass in the first inch or so of the shaft. That is taking the insert and point weight, then adding the weight of the carbon for that first inch of shaft.
So, in both cases, around 42% of total mass is in the first 3.7% of the length.

With the Bohning A nock you have 3.5% of total weight in the last inch or so of the shaft. With the Halo nock you have 5% in the last inch or so of the shaft. When you take the difference between those two numbers 5-3.5=1.5. And the difference between the total arrow weight percentages from the other end of the shaft 42.957-41.590=1.367. Then multiply them we get 2.0505%. Which rounds up for a 2.1% difference in FOC.

Or, you can just use software like Archer’s Advantage which will give you the same answer except they do all the math for you.

 

[bowman69]

Waiting on the shaft to get here but the build is as follows...

HLR 350
50gr SS Shok
20gr back weight
100 grain point
Q2i Fusion 2.1" (All White)
Onestinger 5" wrap (White)
IP 5 (White)
26" C2C
AA and plugged in numbers in Q-spine both say
right at 400 grs with 17% FOC.

Should give me around 275 with my LiftX 33 with 27/65/80 mods that also still isn't here. ☹

 

[bowman69]

Also like to add to those who have reservations about how durable these will be. I was in the same boat until Victory published the OD diameters. The HLR 350 and the VF TKO (which is what I have been shooting last couple years) have the exact same wall thickness and the VF TKO is by far the toughest .246 arrow Ive used. I have zero reservation that the HLR will be on par or surpass the VFs durability.