Does anybody know if white oaks or oaks in general drop acorns every year or are there differences? I've found quite a few white oaks that aren't dropping and don't seem to have any acorns on them while alot of red oaks are raining acorns. Also last year I found some oaks that had monster size acorns around it. They looked like normal acorns but were almost the size of golfballs!
Dnutt
The large acorns you have found sounds like post oak acorns to me. The post oak is a type of white oak and deer love them.
White oak production is cyclical; if you find the trees that are producing, you will likely find where the deer are. It is actually a good thing when just a few of the local white oaks are producing. This tends to concentrate the deer more.
For more information, check out this link:
http://www.thejump.net/hunting/plant-id/trees.htm
Juette
White oak production is cyclical; if you find the trees that are producing, you will likely find where the deer are. It is actually a good thing when just a few of the local white oaks are producing. This tends to concentrate the deer more.
For more information, check out this link:
http://www.thejump.net/hunting/plant-id/trees.htm
Juette
normally oaks cylce having a bumper crop every three years.however moisture or lack of it plays a large roll,and also the timing of the moisture,we got alot if rain late summer this year and our acorns are on the smaller side and dropping early for some reason also.
I found a nice spot two years ago with some big white oak trees and a few sawtooth oaks, just a handful of them in an otherwise very pine tree oriented area.
Great little spot, actually where I shot my 8 pointer last year, as the deer form good travel routes past these trees in the early season. But last year the acorns were non-existant for the most part despite the good amount of rain through spring and summer. This year, as dtrkyman mentioned...I too am seeing very smallish acorns on these big trees but the deer are hitting it up, again despite the good amount of rain.
I am wondering if the rain is HURTING the acorns, i.e. the trees are GROWING more than producing. Any validity to that possibility?
I hope someone can shed some light, because I can't figure out why these oaks for the last two years have been yielding crap, but the year before that (when I found the spot) it was spitting out good acorns. Is this a 3-year cycle thing (altho I thought it was a 2-year cycle) or something else?
Great little spot, actually where I shot my 8 pointer last year, as the deer form good travel routes past these trees in the early season. But last year the acorns were non-existant for the most part despite the good amount of rain through spring and summer. This year, as dtrkyman mentioned...I too am seeing very smallish acorns on these big trees but the deer are hitting it up, again despite the good amount of rain.
I am wondering if the rain is HURTING the acorns, i.e. the trees are GROWING more than producing. Any validity to that possibility?
I hope someone can shed some light, because I can't figure out why these oaks for the last two years have been yielding crap, but the year before that (when I found the spot) it was spitting out good acorns. Is this a 3-year cycle thing (altho I thought it was a 2-year cycle) or something else?
We had many acorns ( especially White oak acorns) two years ago and finding the deer was super easy. Last year there were very few and I don't remember seeing even one White oak acorn. Made hunting deer more difficult but more rewarding when you figgered them out.
This year there are plenty of acorns in the southeast....maybe too many. But I think that right now must be early in the acorn drop because most of the acorns that I see still have the caps attached. I suspect that this is either the falty acorns falling early or perhaps because of all the wind that we have had associated with the storms.
Other than those blown off the tree, what do acorns with the caps still on them indicate?
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This year there are plenty of acorns in the southeast....maybe too many. But I think that right now must be early in the acorn drop because most of the acorns that I see still have the caps attached. I suspect that this is either the falty acorns falling early or perhaps because of all the wind that we have had associated with the storms.
Other than those blown off the tree, what do acorns with the caps still on them indicate?
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GENERAL OVERVIEW OF OAKS.
Some oaks produce every other year, some produce every three years. Weather plays a big role in whether or not they produce at all. The acorns you found are probably either burr oak or possibly chestnut oak. If the cup comes down almost over the entire nut, and is real rough, it is probably a burr oak.
All oaks are either red oak or white oak. The key in telling which is the leaves. White oak have rounded, lobed leaves. Red oak leaves are sharp pointed. The whites are usually sweeter and have less tanic acid, therefore are preferred. But deer will eat them all.
Some oaks produce every other year, some produce every three years. Weather plays a big role in whether or not they produce at all. The acorns you found are probably either burr oak or possibly chestnut oak. If the cup comes down almost over the entire nut, and is real rough, it is probably a burr oak.
All oaks are either red oak or white oak. The key in telling which is the leaves. White oak have rounded, lobed leaves. Red oak leaves are sharp pointed. The whites are usually sweeter and have less tanic acid, therefore are preferred. But deer will eat them all.
i have to rightly disagree with this statement. We have live sand oak which leaves don't exhibit leaves like the whites or red that you see more up north. This holds true for our myrtle, bluejack and live.
Most of the trees I mention acron corp requires 2 complete seasons for maturity. So you get acrons one year then it skips a year.
Our white oaks usually produce every year and the red oaks every other year. Notice I said usually, sometimes they fail to produce at all and other times they are spotty, a few here and a few there. This year they are all loaded.
ive got the audubon field guide for the eastern region and it lists 27 differant oak trees in this region alone.it covers from the eastern seabord to central texas and the rockies.it does not mention wether or not all oaks are classified as white or red.there is a oak called a black oak so which would it fall under white or red? probably neither but i dont really know.
white oakes have rounded edges on the leaves. the buck I shot this year in ND was munching on white oak candy.
acorns
something to think about, I got a friend who has a buck deer. I took 2 pockets full of acorn to feed him. one pocket of white oak and the other red oak, I put all the acorns on the ground at the same time in 2 different piles. Guess which one he ate first!!!!!
Well it was the red oak, they were smaller, much easier to chew, when it came time to eat the white oak(bigger ones) he had to work it around in his mouth to get it chewed up,
Just my .02 worth Bubba
something to think about, I got a friend who has a buck deer. I took 2 pockets full of acorn to feed him. one pocket of white oak and the other red oak, I put all the acorns on the ground at the same time in 2 different piles. Guess which one he ate first!!!!!
Well it was the red oak, they were smaller, much easier to chew, when it came time to eat the white oak(bigger ones) he had to work it around in his mouth to get it chewed up,
Just my .02 worth Bubba
We have 3 different kinds of white oaks in the areas that I hunt. All white oaks in our area will attract deer however there are some trees which seem to produce every year and tend to always drop their acorns first. Moisture does play some part in determining acorns but spring frost (especially late) is also a determining factor as well. In years when you seem to not be able to find acorns anywhere, try the highest elevations in your area. When there is a bumper crop of acorns, deer will abandon most foods and gorge themselves on acorns that helps store much needed fat for the winter to come. Our season opens this Saturday in TN and I will hunting my trusty opening day stand overlooking 3 huge white oaks.
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